Bill Gates was already one of the world’s richest people, the cofounder of Microsoft and architect of our modern computing experience, and a hugely influential philanthropist. This year he gained a new title: soothsayer. In a now famous TED talk back in 2015, Gates warned that the biggest calamity of our time would not be a war, but a virus. He said we weren’t ready for the next epidemic. Turns out he was right.

For this episode of the Get WIRED podcast, WIRED editor at large Steven Levy sat down for an intimate and wide-ranging discussion with Gates about the US response to the coronavirus, its approach to testing, and some of the more promising tracks for vaccine development and therapeutic treatments. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has contributed more than $1 billion to vaccine research, with $100 million earmarked specifically for Covid-19 vaccines. Conspiracy theorists allege Gates is helping to fund vaccines as a means of implanting microchips in people, and Levy had the chance to ask about the anti-science sentiment that researchers and scientists are facing.

Gates also weighed in on Microsoft’s bid for TikTok, Big Tech’s antirust dilemma—which might be sparking some déjà vu for Gates—and how his own life has changed during the pandemic. Less travel, more masks: Bill Gates is just like the rest of us, plus a few billion.

How to Listen

You can listen to Get WIRED through the audio player on this page, and subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts.


More From WIRED on Covid-19

You May Also Like

Crustacean that looks just like a piece of sushi becomes star attraction at Japanese aquarium 

A bizarre parasitic sea creature that looks like a piece of salmon…

Experts reveal new way to try and spot alien life after surge in UFO sightings

A RECENT study has revealed a new method scientists can use to…

Daily Mail in Dallas for Solar Eclipse 2024 – where a million skygazers have traveled to Texas to get perfect view of rare cosmic event (which some locals didn’t even know was happening!)

Walking the streets of Dallas on Saturday you wouldn’t have a clue…

Human jaws evolved from fish gills to be strong and snappy

The first jaws of ancient humans evolved from gills to be strong…